we need our leaders, and the president was elected by the people. he needs to sit down now and the leader along with our leader, the speaker, and talk seriously about these plans. gerri: small business, big business. the governor's. who is left for the president to talk to? >> well, we also found that the president was out at various businesses encouraging the electric ted send it to it's about what he wants. and that is not the way that you get a negotiation going, by talking about this and the public as he has. he needs to sit down with the leaders of the house and the senate and he needs to be the leader on this. we are not seeing it here, and it's very, very discouraging. gerri: o what you to respond to what nancy pelosi had to say about hostage-taking today. pretty dramatic comments. this is nancy pelosi. >> the republicans are saying that rather than passing that they want to hold it hostage, giving an additional tax cut to people making over $250,000 a year. that is not negotiating. that is hostage-taking. gerri: how would you respond to that